Myah OS 3.0 Alpha 2. Download & User Guide.

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Myah OS 3.0 Alpha 2. Download & User Guide.

Postby Jeremiah » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:19 am

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Quick info for Myah OS 3.0 Alpha 2
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Myah OS 3.0 Alpha 2 is a complete linux live distro. The desktop features the new XFCE 4.4.1. The CD is not stripped of any parts, everything used to build it is included. This means it contains programs like make, patch and even the kernel source, if you wish to compile anything yourself.

Myah OS 3.0 also has a broad range of programs included. Everything from Office and Graphic programs to multimedia. This makes Myah OS a complete linux solution for your PC.

Myah 3.0 is compiled for i686 intel/amd systems, but will also work well with the new 64bit intel/amd systems. Myah OS comes with it's own set of package management tools. These tools are shell based scripts. There is currently a graphical front end for the installpkg utility, with more to come. This alpha version does not come with an installer to install to your hard drive. It will be added in shortly and there are instructions on how to manually install below.

Myah OS 3.0 has 2 default users. The admin user root. And the recommended user myah.

User: Password:
root myah
myah (blank)

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What's new in alpha 2.
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In the last month since alpha 1 was released there has been a lot of work done. Somewhere between 100 to 150 packages have been updated or had bugs fixed. Almost every package has been updated to the latest stable version. There are a couple packages that were kept if the newest version was not usable. This includes neon, liboil, grep and the linux kernel. The first 2 were just kept back because subversion and gstreamer require the older versions to work. Grep however seems to be completely broken causing all other packages such as gcc glibc and so on to fail. I have also kept the linux kernel back to the latest 2.5.22.12 branch. This is because there are still major issues to be delt with before using the 2.6.23 branch. The reason I do this is because I could just build the latest kernel like slackware and many other distros do and though it in. But unlike other distros every single package in Myah OS is compiled against every other package. So the whole system is in tune. Many other distros only recompile a package if it's updated or stops working. I work to keep everything uptodate but it simply must work with everything else. I will have a package of the latest kernel from 2.6.23 available for download for people who would like to test it out.

I have also tried to clear up any bugs I found so far. There were several problems with exaile and gstreamer. I had to roll back neon and liboil to make gstreamer work. I also was missing a config file in one of the gstreamer packages that was causing exaile to fail. Exaile also needed some python modules to work fully. Gnumeric was rolled back because I had used the development version by mistake. It is now back to the latest stable. I added the english dictionary for aspell to enable spell checker in abiword. I also added gtkspell which enabled spell checking in other programs like pidgin and xchat. I also fixed gimp updating it to 2.4.1 and making sure the menu entry was there. Glibc 2.7 is also updated like many other libraries. Like I said before I updated 100 to 150 packages. The whole system was recompiled and repackages against itself 2 times to make sure it was 100 percent.

Alpha 2 now will auto detect your video card and send you to a graphical login. I took my xconf program and rewrote it from the ground up. It is a complex script that first runs X -configure to create a simple xorg.conf script including you video driver. It then runs X -config -probeonly against the new file to check what resolutions are available. Since this does not work for all cards. It then uses read-edid to pull your max res from your card. Since this may also fail or only give you 1 res the script adds those all res from both of those together. It then also adds in 1024x768 800x600 640x480 just to make sure you have something. The script then calculates the dpi for what ever the default res is for your card. The xconf program is now written much better then it was in alpha 1. It also has much simpler options so it should make life easier. The graphical login manager in Myah OS is slim. All of the CD boot options will take you to slim, but not the Safe ones or the memcheck.

I have kept the version called alpha 2 because it still does not have an HD installer program. I will try and get this done as soon as possible. There also is no closed source drivers for ATI or nVidia yet. I will post test packages below for people to be able to download and try it out. I'm hoping to get both working and integrate them into the CD for the next release. But some cards will still have full 3D support though mesa. Such as older ATI cards. For people with new ATI HD cards I have included the latest opensource radeonhd driver from ATI/Novell. The driver was included in alpha 1 but was not really usable. The latest package I have works very well on my x1950 pro. It gives proper 2D acceleration with proper resolutions. So ATI people will be happy. The fglrx closesource driver I will post below also supports the latest ATI HD cards. Plus it give full 3D support. It's also supossed to offer aiglx now. But it seems to be broken for xorg 7.3 still.

Anyway like I said there has been a mountain of work done since Alpha 1 came out a month ago. I consider this version very stable. But still may have a bugs her and there. I just have not implemented everything yet such as the HD installer.

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Downloads
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ftp: Myah-OS-3.0-alpha-2.iso
http: Myah-OS-3.0-alpha-2.iso
md5sum: a0aa66017e6b928f8fa916fd49837ec9

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List of interesting of included software.
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Windows Managers:
XFCE - 4.4.1
Beryl - 0.2.1

System:
Linux Kernel - 2.6.22.12 - with source.
GCC - 4.2.2
Glib - 2.14.3
Glibc - 2.7
GTK+ - 2.12.1
Mesa - 7.0.1
Perl- 5.8.8
Python - 2.5.1
Xorg - 7.3

System Tools:
Catfish - 0.3
CUPS - 1.3.4
Galculator - 1.3.1
GParted - 0.3.3
Msudo
XFCE Taskmanager - 0.3.2
Xscreensaver - 5.03

Archivers:
Squeeze - 0.2.1
Xarchiver - 0.4.6

Graphic Editors:
Blender - 2.45
Dia - 0.96.1
Inkscape - 0.45.1
Gimp - 2.4.1
Tux Paint - 0.9.17
Xpaint - 2.7.8.1

Graphic Viewers:
GQview - 2.0.4
Mirage - 0.9
Ristretto - 0.0.11

Graphic Tools:
Gcolor2 - 0.4
GTKam - 0.1.14
Xsane - 0.994

Video Players:
Mplayer - 1.0rc2 - With full DVD support.
Xine UI - 0.99.5 - With full DVD support.

Audio Players:
Audacious - 1.4.0
Exaile - 0.2.11.1
Xfmedia - 0.10.0
XMMS - 1.2.10

CD/DVD burners:
Graveman - 0.3.12.5
Xfburn - 0.3.0

Audio/Video Editors:
Audacity - 1.3.3beta
Kino - 1.1.1

Audio/Video Tools:
Asunder - 0.9
Audio Tag Tool - 0.12.3
Streamtuner - 0.99.99
XFCE Mixer - 4.4.1

Internet Browsers:
Firefox - 2.0.0.9 - With mplayerplug-in, Flash, Java, ChatZilla, and fireFTP.
Kazehakase - 0.5.0 - With mplayerplug-in, flash, and java.

FTP Managers:
gFTP - 2.0.18
fireFTP

Torrent Clients:
Azureus - 3.0.3.4
Transmission - 0.92

Chat Clients:
ChatZilla - 0.9.78.1
pidgin - 2.2.2
Xchat - 2.8.4

Mail Clients:
Thunderbird - 2.0.0.9

Network Tools:
pyNeighborhood - 0.4
Wifi Radar - 1.9.8

Editors/IDEs:
Geany - 0.12
Mousepad - 0.2.12
Medit - 0.8.11

Office:
Abiword - 2.4.6
Orage - 4.4.1
ePDFViewer - 0.1.6
gfa - 0.4.1
Gnumeric - 1.6.3

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Bugs and Quick Fixes
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1) xorg-server-1.4 may ignore the DisplaySize setting in xorg.conf. This means font dpi may not be set like it should. But there is a work around.

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startx -- -dpi 96


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Myah OS package management suite.
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Currently there are 3 main programs that you will use for managing packages. I am creating other tools but for now there are 3 main ones in place you will need to know about.
All 3 of these programs need to be run as root. So you can use su sudo or msudo to launch them. All 3 also are located in /sbin so you will need to give that as it will not be found in your normal users path. sudo /sbin/installpkg something like that.

installpkg Installs or updates Myah OS packages.
removepkg Removes existing Myah OS packages.
mbuild Compiles and creates Myah OS packages.

installpkg
If you just looking to install a package you can do it many different ways with this tool. You can do it from the command line. Or with a menu, Or even a graphical front end. If you have a package on you computer just clicking on it will open up the Graphical front end for you to install. I like the command line myself so I will explain that since the Graphical is self explanitory.
Here are some swithes you can give to installpkg

--menu (Uses dialog to run in menu mode in console)
--gtk (Uses Xdialog to run in menu mode in xwindows)
--info (display info about package)
--check (check package dependencies against system)
--nodep (install package without checking depedencies)
--root /mnt (install someplace else, like /mnt)
--update (install and remove any other versions)

mbuild
This program will take the Myah OS source tarballs and compile the binary packages from them. It's completely command line run and here are it's switches.

--cleanup (Removes source & package folders when done.)
--install (Installs .mya binary when done.)
--update (Updates .mya binary when done.)
--nodeps (Dissables the dependency checking.)
--help (Shows this message.)

removepkg
This program is very simple just give the full name of the package you wish to remove.

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Optimizing Xorg Settings
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xconf
This application will auto detect your video driver and available resolutions. It will also set the DPI. It must be run from the console outside of xwindows. It also must be run as root and it located in /sbin.
The switches are simple. By default it will try and configure your card for maximum resolution with your dpi set to 96.

Usage: xconf [option1] <variable1> [option2] <variable2>

About:
xconf will attempt to auto configure your graphic card.
The setting will be written to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
Your old file will be saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
If you cannot start xwindows after runing this program
Please give the following command to roll it back.

cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old /etc/X11/xorg.conf

options:
--res ( Use to set resolution, default is Maximum. )
--dpi ( Use to set dpi, default is 96. )
--safe ( Sets resolution to 1024x768 and dpi to 96 )
--nocomp ( Dissables composite extention. )
--help ( Displays this message. )

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Network configuration
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Myah OS now uses the BLFS style of networking. Netplug daemon is used for auto connection. And dhcp is used for auto IP. Here is some commands you may want to know about.

To stop the netplug daemon.
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su
myah
/etc/rc.d/init.d/netplugd stop


To bring a network device up or down.
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su
myah
/sbin/ifdown eth0


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su
myah
/sbin/ifup eth0


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Installing to the Harddrive
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These instructions are for a xfs formated partition that I will call /mnt/hda2 adjust the hda2 to what ever partition you are using. We will be formatting this partition so what ever was on it will be completely destroyed.

1) Make sure the target partition is unmounted
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umount /dev/hda2


2) Now we will format this partition with the xfs format. Remember what ever was on this partition will now be totaly gone.
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mkfs.xfs -f /dev/hda2


3) Now we will update the fstab and mount the partition with this command.
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fstab-update


4) We will now decompress the lzm files to the harddrive.
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lzm2dir /mnt/live/mnt/*/myahos/base/myah.lzm /mnt/hda2


5) IF you want to want to use lilo to boot the OS follow the below. If you don't then I will assume you have your own bootloader.
Lilo need to be run from within the system on the harddrive. And proc has to be mounted for this to work.
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mount -t proc proc /mnt/hda2/proc

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chroot /mnt/hda2

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lilo

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exit


6) lets make sure to copy the fstab file over to your new partition.
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cp -a /etc/fstab /mnt/hda2/etc/fstab


7) Lastly when you boot into your new HD system the all the mount points will not be there yet. So using the fstab-update command will fix this. So during the first HD boot give this command.
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fstab-update


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Full package list
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a-base_3.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
a2ps_4.13b-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
a52dec_0.7.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
aalib_1.4rc5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
abiword_2.4.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
acl_2.2.45-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
acpid_1.0.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
aiksaurus_1.2.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-firmware_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-lib_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-oss_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-plugins_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-tools_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
alsa-utils_1.0.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
apmd_3.2.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
applewmproto_1.0.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
appres_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
apr-util_1.2.10-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
apr_1.2.11-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
aspell-dict-en_6.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
aspell_0.60.5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
asunder_0.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
atk_1.20.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
attr_2.4.39-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
audacious-plugins_1.4.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
audacious_1.4.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
audacity_20070518-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
audiofile_0.2.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
aufs_20071012-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
autoconf_2.61-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
autofs_4.1.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
automake_1.10-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
azureus_3.0.3.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bash_3.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bc_1.06-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bdftopcf_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
beforelight_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
beryl_0.2.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bigreqsproto_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bin86_0.16.17-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bind-utils_9.4.1.p1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
binutils_2.18-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bison_2.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bitmap_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
blender_2.45-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
boost-jam_3.1.15-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bootsplash_3.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
bzip2_1.0.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cabextract_1.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cairo_1.4.10-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cairomm_1.4.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
catfish_0.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cddb_1.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cdparanoia-III_alpha9.8-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cdrdao_1.2.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cdrtools_2.01-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
compositeproto_0.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
corefonts_1.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
coreutils_6.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cpio_2.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cups_1.3.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
curl_7.17.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cvs_1.11.22-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cxxlibs_5.0.7-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
cyrus-sasl_2.1.22-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
damageproto_1.1.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
db_4.6.21-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dbus-glib_0.74-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dbus-python_0.82.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dbus_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
desktop-file-utils_0.14-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
devs_2.3.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dhcpcd_3.1.7-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dia_0.96.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dialog_1.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
diffutils_2.8.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
divx4linux_20030428-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dmxproto_2.2.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
docbook-xml_4.5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
docbook-xsl_1.73.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dosfstools_2.11-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
doxygen_1.5.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
driconf_0.9.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
dvd+rw-tools_7.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
e2fsprogs_1.40.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
ed_0.8-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
editres_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
eject_2.1.5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
enchant_1.3.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
encodings_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
enscript_1.6.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
epdfview_0.1.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
esound_0.2.38-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
evieext_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
exaile_0.2.11.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
exo_0.3.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
expat_2.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
faac_1.26-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
faad2_2.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
ffmpeg_20070413-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fftw_3.1.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
file_4.21-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
findutils_4.2.31-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
firefox_2.0.0.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fixesproto_4.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
flac_1.2.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
flash-player_9.0.64-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
flatbedcursors_0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
flex_2.5.33-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fltk_1.1.7-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-adobe-100dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-adobe-utopia-100dpi_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-adobe-utopia-75dpi_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-adobe-utopia-type1_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-alias_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-arabic-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-100dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-75dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-ttf_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bh-type1_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bitstream-100dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bitstream-75dpi_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bitstream-speedo_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-bitstream-type1_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-cronyx-cyrillic_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-cursor-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-daewoo-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-dec-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-ibm-type1_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-isas-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-jis-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-micro-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-misc-cyrillic_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-misc-ethiopic_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-misc-meltho_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-misc-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-mutt-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-schumacher-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-screen-cyrillic_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-sony-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-sun-misc_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-util_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-winitzki-cyrillic_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
font-xfree86-type1_1.0.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fontcacheproto_0.1.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fontconfig_2.4.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fontsproto_2.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fonttosfnt_1.0.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
freealut_1.1.0-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
freetype_2.3.5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fribidi_0.10.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fslsfonts_1.0.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fstobdf_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
fuse_2.7.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gail_1.20.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
galculator_1.3.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gamin_0.1.9-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gawk_3.1.6-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gc_6.8-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gcc_4.2.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gccmakedep_1.0.2-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gcolor2_0.4-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gconf_2.20.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gd_2.0.35-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gdbm_1.8.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
geany_0.12-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gettext_0.17-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gfa_0.4.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gftp_2.0.18-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
ghostscript_8.60-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
gimp_2.4.1-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
git_1.5.3.5-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
glib2_2.14.3-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
glib_1.2.10-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
glibc_2.7-1_i686_Myah3.0-stable
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Postby kiah » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:39 am

First to answer :D. I will download it in the morning and play with it tomorrow.

I haven't been here in a while due to other commitments but I am back now.
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Postby Jeremiah » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:23 pm

Yeah just waiting to here how it runs. I will be trying to post a package for FGLRX and nVidia close source driver soon. This will be for testing.

Myah OS is now on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myah_OS. Some of there info was kinda wrong so I have fixed a couple things. But I really need to sit down and write out alot of documentations and credits.
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:18 am

I don't think you should write a package because that is illegal. I know a lot of others get away with it but personally there isn't much need to. You don't play games on a livecd and when you install it well perhaps there should be a script that comes with Myah OS to set up 3d drivers for you? That shouldn't be hard to make. You choose from a list which driver you want then it wgets and runs the intaller or installs it for you if it isn't a script.
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Postby Jeremiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:51 am

I see your point about the illegal I understand that end of it and myself would rather any day use the opensource 3D. But for nVidia and ATI with newer cards this is only handled with the close source. However a script may be a good option. But please understand being a live CD is only a delivery method. Myah OS is not ment to be only a live CD. It's just the easiest way to send it out. The CD is made by me installing the packages with installpkg --root <to directory> Then simply chroot into it, in order to update the ldconfig and make sure the mime database is there. Other then that Its a full install to a directory from my packages. I then take the directory and run dir2lzm to convert that into an .lzm module. So there is no difference between the Live CD and if you were to take the packages off the server and install them manually. And installing them to a partition is how I myself run Myah OS. The live CD part only comes at the very end when I want to release it out to all of you. But it's not like slax where it's stripped down to be only a CD. This is the full system, It what I used on a everyday basis and it's what I develop upon. And I really don't want you to count Myah out as a gaming system. Just because I have been focused on making the base system work, packages management, updating and bug fixes. I just want a bullet proof base. And since this is all original as I'm not just taking existing debain builds like ubuntu does. And I have developed my own package system. It has taken a year to sort it all out. But I love playing games and well don't think you wont seem Myah suddenly support a full range of games. But still I may simply work with the script since it is a licensing thing and it would be easy to just give a script. Easier to test and fix. Plus as a live CD people can just reboot if it didn't work.
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:00 am

Well I don't really enjoy playing games much but occasionally I come across one that I find incredible and I tend to play it a lot. At the moment the game I am obsessed with is Wesnoth. It takes me away from the other games where I am at a disadvantage because of my visual learning disability- it is just a turn based strategy so it is all about experience, concentration and being innovative on the spot- if one tactic didn't work you have to quickly invent a new one. A lot of people complain that it is largely about luck too because your character might miss when he had an opportunity to kill an enemy and then the enemy gets him or whatever, but I think that is just part of the strategy. You have to take into consideration that you might be unlucky so you always need a backup plan. Plus it isn't a waste of time like other games. It is actually stimulating for your mind. Personally I find it more stimulating than chess, simply because chess gets a bit repetitive.

^ The point of that rambling is if you haven't played Wesnoth, play it. Also listen to some music whilst you are developing. It will make you more relaxed and will stimulate your brain so that you think clearer. Well, I don't know about you, a lot of people say that music distracts them but it doesn't for me because I have ADHD so I need to multi-task to focus properly.
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Postby Jeremiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:22 pm

You still haven't said anything about the CD. Remember that is what this thread is for. I have herd alot about Wesnoth, though it doesn't look like my personal type of game. I will probably have a package for that shortly. I listen to Ben Folds or the TV usually.
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:31 pm

Ok I am on the livecd now. I must say I am a fan of the icons. I am installing it and I will see how it goes then.

I have a list of programs that I want to make packages for so I will get on that soon enough and learn how to build packages.

Recently in Gentoo I hacked up a simple way to make it so that you can have a different menu when you right click on the desktop. I made the menu simple and I like it a lot. I will try to make one for Myah OS and perhaps you could try it. I personally think having the same menu launch on right click and on clicking the launch button is stupid. I'm not sure if you feel the same way?
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:42 pm

hmmm.. I'm on a very fast computer running in copy to RAM mode and lzm2dir is taking 20minutes+.
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Postby Jeremiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:59 pm

Copy 2 Ram takes form 1.5 to 2 Gigs of ram. It not only need to place the whole CD into ram but it also needs to run the OS that takes 150 to 300 mb probably depending on what your doing. But since it's decompressing on the fly also from the lzm in memory to files to read in the memeory you also talking alot more megabites of memory taken. Now this is just talking about loading the CD to memory and not talking about decompressing that lzm to a directory. So your looking at alot more memoery needed. And the smaller amount you have for that proccess the slower it's going to be. Running with Copy to ram is faster yes. But if your going to be installing it's probably faster to run off the CD and do the dir2lzm from there. Since that leaves you with a ton of memory. Remember that almost 700mb lzm is a compressed 3.5Gig folder. So your talking alot of room decompressed. But I think it would only take a couple minutes on my PC. You may have ran very low on ram.

Can I have your specs please. Because I haven't had any troubles yet but I'm running a Athlon duel core with 2 gigs of memory and all sata devices.
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:18 pm

TWO intel core duos at 2.13ghz

2GB RAM

Running off an IDE HD. My other HD if SCSI but I use my IDE one for testing because it is smaller and I don't really need to use it.

Anyway, it finally finished and I love it. With just a few modifications it will suit me perfectly :P

/me starts tweaking xfce.
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:44 pm

What happened to the games section in the packages tree? :(
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:47 pm

Also, I think we've discussed this before, you know how you have to ls /var/log/packages/PACKAGE | grep PACKAGE and then /sbin/removepkg PACKAGE and how it is annoying?
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:59 pm

Something is wrong with Firefox. I cannot make it go to my homepage when I open it. I want my homepage to be wikimedia.org (my favourite website).
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Postby kiah » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:04 pm

Oh, can you teach me how to build packages now?
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